The bike lanes on Annette and Dupont are almost complete and Jerrold of BlogTO has gave his impression of the "narrowing" of Dupont and Annette from a recent drive along Dupont.
But as someone who both cycles and drives on Dupont and Annette (often enough to be quite familiar with the area's traffic issues), I'm not particularly happy about how this was implemented and the effects it has had on congestion. It's gotten really bad for motorists, and seems to have been done without much consideration for Toronto's mighty ruler - the car.
Is that true? Was this done with little consideration to the car? I think quite the contrary, traffic engineers have always given full consideration to car traffic and congestion. The staff reports always contain figures to show how much it will slow down travel times (Jarvis will slow cars by 2-3 minutes.) The secret is that the City is trying to both accommodate the growing cycling traffic as well as squeeze the car a bit.
Jerrold and a few commenters go on to blame the bike lanes for car congestion along this stretch - with us left to just take their word on it. The photos in the post, however, don't seem to support their alarmism. It's not like cars don't cause their own congestion. There are much more scientific methods to measure congestion and try to determine the cause (other than the cars existing and all being driven at the same time). But one thing is sure: if more motorists ditch their cars for other more sustainable means of moving themselves the congestion problem will solve itself.
My own first impression of the finished bike lanes is that they are welcome relieve from a hostile neighbourhood. Dundas West is crappy, crappy for cyclists with narrow lanes and next to no room between car doors and the moving lane of traffic. It's not too much to ask for a safe, comfortable way to travel this east/west route and to get under the tracks. It was only a handful of years ago that an experienced cyclist - and friend of a friend - died in the underpass by being crushed. (Now if no parking in the bike lane could be better enforced this would be a much improved route.)
The writer and a few of the commenters claim to be both a driver and a cyclist along this route, making the plea for "balance" of the road users which seems to result in taking away bike lanes and leaving nothing for cyclists. One commenter shares a general sentiment that cyclists just have to be "realistic":
Oh did I mention, I LOVE BIKES and wish there were MORE BIKES but we cannot simply ignore that there ARE cars on the road
Did I mention that about half of Torontonians have bikes, and many of them may claim to "LOVE BIKES" but that doesn't make them experts on good cycling infrastructure or what it feels like to commute in dangerous parts of town.
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tlr (not verified)
I have been riding them for a while now
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 13:09I have been riding the Annette street lanes for a few weeks now and am LOVING it. Parking in the lanes is still a serious problem, especially for those of us riding before 7AM., but it has gotten better. I notice they have made people very happy. I see lots of riders out at the end of the work day and they smile at me across the street and wave. it seems to have really done something for the riders in the neighbourhood. I have also noticed that many families are now taking their children on the road on their bikes, which is great. Parents need to be teaching their children how to ride safely on the road and this is a great way to start.
The Dupont situation is a bit different. The lanes are good, but parking in them is an issue and traffic is heavier along there than on Annette, so getting around a parked car is more dangerous. Also, when traveling east bound, as you go under the bridge on the other side of Dundas, traffic can turn left onto the ramp like road to get onto Dundas (from Dupont). Cars are stopping here to let cars make a left with no concern for bike traffic that might be coming along the bike lane. Very dangerous and should be approached with immense caution. I am also disappointed with how the Dupont lane is working in conjunction with Annette. I have been riding the new West Toronto Rail Path and emerging at the end of the line at Cariboo Street. From there you can travel back south on Osler and get onto the Dupont bike lane. Once you come up from under the bridge, where the heck are you supposed to go to get over to Annette! The only real viable option is to make a right onto Old Weston Road, do a U turn and then wait for the light to change and proceed straight through to Annette. I would LOVE to see a bicycle signal at this intersection to get people coming off the rail trail onto the Annette bike lane. Also, cars seem to think the bike lane northbound on Dupont at Dundas/Annette is a turning lane. Quite annoying.
Ben
signage
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 14:23I could be wrong, or maybe they just haven't updated the signs yet, but I didn't notice any no stopping signs lining the bike lanes on Annette. There were no parking signs.
The bike lane parking was the worst I've ever seen (even worse than in Peterborough where they allow parking in bike lanes).
Ben
signage
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 14:24I could be wrong, or maybe they just haven't updated the signs yet, but I didn't notice any no stopping signs lining the bike lanes on Annette. There were no parking signs.
The bike lane parking was the worst I've ever seen (even worse than in Peterborough where they allow parking in bike lanes).
Ben
signage
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 14:24I could be wrong, or maybe they just haven't updated the signs yet, but I didn't notice any no stopping signs lining the bike lanes on Annette. There were no parking signs.
The bike lane parking was the worst I've ever seen (even worse than in Peterborough where they allow parking in bike lanes).
Ben
signage
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 14:24I could be wrong, or maybe they just haven't updated the signs yet, but I didn't notice any no stopping signs lining the bike lanes on Annette. There were no parking signs.
The bike lane parking was the worst I've ever seen (even worse than in Peterborough where they allow parking in bike lanes).
Random cyclist (not verified)
I'm very happy with the lanes
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 14:33I'm very happy with the lanes under the bridges at Lansdowne and Dundas West. These passages feel much safer now; traffic has always been very aggressive at these locations.
As a cyclist I really like roads that are single car lane + bike lane + designated left turn lanes in each direction. Without the left turn lanes, cars going straight through often change to the outside lane at intersections to pass, and it puts a nasty squeeze on cyclists. Designated left turn lanes help to organize traffic.
I haven't had any problems with cars parked in the bike lanes, but then I don't really care. I just go around. There's nothing especially unsafe about that.
redphone
Not for you perhaps, but it
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 15:37Not for you perhaps, but it can be particularly un-safe for others, hence the reason to stay on top of it.
"Others" refer to trikes, bikes with trailers, child trailers and those half-bike things for kids.
Antony (not verified)
If I recall a CAN-Bike
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 14:52If I recall a CAN-Bike poster, I think that cars should be using the bike lane as a (right) turning lane, at least in the 5-10m before the intersection. Shifting over to pass on their left may be safer than getting a right hook.
PedalPowerPat
Unsafe?
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 20:27Unsafe?
Do the following sound unsafe?
Have fun doing sweet poses while airborne but don't forget about all the cars that you have to dodge when you comfortably connect with the pillow-soft pavement.
Always check your 6' and use your signals and this probably won't occur.
You find your self hopelessly stuck in the track as drivers honk at you like water buffalo in heat, you anxiously stumble out of their way.
electric
I Love You. (don't open this e-mail)
Fri, 07/03/2009 - 21:26Hahaha, how about:
Just sounds weird.
It's funny about cars parked in bike lanes, here is my recent experience. After a new stretch of bike lanes were installed on a road 4 lanes wide it was narrowed to two lanes. Single lanes north/south for cars, single lanes north/south for cycles and a new "parking lane" on the right of each lane. Now people are parking allover the street, contractors are laying cones(right over the bike lane, they wouldn't dare do this previously because their cones would be instant plastic junk by the 5th car). So now i've got to go into the only lane of traffic, where as before i could just squeeze by in the right-most lane since the old lanes were wider. Anyways, aside from that the lanes are great because on this street, as i'm sure others, you'd get Driver man trying to do a 1/4 mile race in the right lane swerving back into the left lane before he rear-ends a parked car going 80km/h. All just to get 5 cars ahead. Almost killing anybody daring to be in that lane at the time.
chephy (not verified)
Unsafe? Do the following
Tue, 07/07/2009 - 15:43Unsafe?
Do the following sound unsafe?
It sure does. It doesn't mean passing parked cars is unsafe. If you're going to be an idiot about something, it will become unsafe. Please, don't take it personally. I am not calling you an idiot. Just suggesting that the action that would lead to the problems you're describing would have to be pretty dumb (i.e., swerving without checking, passing too close etc.) Sure, passing cars parked in bike lanes can be a major inconvenience, but it doesn't have to be dangerous.
1. Doorprizes: The driver opens his/her door directly in your path because you are hemmed in by traffic in the left lane.
Negotiate with drivers behind you as you're approaching the parked car to make sure that you have plenty of space to go around. Don't pass within inches of the mirror.
2. Pavement Face: Driver behind you doesn't realise you are turning when he/she is turning into the left lane and rear ends/crushes you.
You mentioned the solution yourself. Hand signals and (much more importantly!) eye contact and general awareness of driver's response to your signals (watch the car body language). It also helps to realize that you don't have the right of way in that situation. Some people don't, and get upset when the drivers behind do not yield. That said, it is a courteous thing for a driver to yield because, unlike another driver, a cyclist cannot change lanes way in advance of the obstacle - that would be violating the "slower traffic stay to the right" principle. And in my experience most drivers actually do yield as soon as you extend that left hand. As a cyclist I have my share of complaints about Toronto drivers, but not in this situation
3. Streetcar track-fail: You usually have no trouble hopping into the left lane over the streetcar tracks... for some reason this isn't your day.
I don't recall any bike lanes in Toronto that are directly next to a lane with streetcar tracks. And BTW, if someone honks, "anxiously stumbling out of the way" is not the only possible response, and not necessarily the best.
Ryan Marr (not verified)
I'll take davenport instead thanks.
Tue, 07/07/2009 - 17:01Dupont is a nightmare! this is my route when I'm driving home, when I'm biking home from work (which I am tonight) I take davenport. The bike lanes are much safer there. My experience with these new bike lanes is that drivers just think it's a driving lane!
If the intersection at dundas/dupont/annette wasn't confusing enough already, now drivers don't know when it's their turn to turn or if they're even in a lane for cars... The whole thing is a mess and in my opinion very poorly implemented and as a cyclist I feel more comfortable on the road with cars where they can see me than in a bike lane that a motorist might dive into thinking they have the opportunity pass.
It's a very dangerous area bike lane or not.
Random cyclist (not verified)
More power to you. It's great
Tue, 07/07/2009 - 21:01More power to you. It's great if you can take Davenport, and to get downtown, anyone in the Junction will probably take the Davenport bike lanes too. But we need to get to Davenport somehow. The easiest way is to go along Dupont to Symington, then up to Davenport.
After taking this route all last year, it feels wonderfully safe having the bike path through the underpass at Annette/DundasW/Dupont.
And of course, Davenport is a great east/west connection to downtown if you live far enough north, but not so useful for people living closer to High Park/Bloor etc.
jamesmallon (not verified)
Torontonians travel the wrong places
Tue, 07/07/2009 - 17:12So many places in the word have pleasant cycling environments that put shame in the heart of this Toronto resident: Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Tokyo, Portland, Montreal. I've lived in two of these cities, most have lived in none, and few have travelled in any. Most Torontonians are travelling to hopeless American cities in the south, or places in the developing world they made sacrifices to get their families out from. If that's what most of us see, that's what we compare to: the bar is way too low. If more of us travelled to Northern Europe, NE Asia, or the Pacific NW, we'd make this a better city.
Not much of a solution. Sorry.
Tone (not verified)
Dupont rocks
Wed, 07/08/2009 - 11:14I live in west Toronto and have been using Dupont to get under the tracks -- my previous route on St. Clair seems to be constantly under construction.
The turn before the tracks used to be a bit hairy -- ok, but not pleasant. Then, one day, there was a bike path. It was such an unexpected improvement that I worried that it was a Urban Repair Squad thing and would be quickly removed. I was so happy when I discovered it was a real bike lane.
I makes the bridge much easier to navigate -- much better than St. Clair. It also lets me avoid the west end of the Davenport bike lane, which -for some reason - seems to freqently have glass and debris in the bike lane.
Perhaps it isn't perfect, but its a massive improvement compared to what was there before. Since there was street parking after rush hour, I can't imagine car traffic is much worse ... rush hour traffic moves more slowly, but it moves. And, we're only talking about a couple of blocks of bike lane -- it terminates after Landsdown, I believe.
BJH (not verified)
It does rock. :) I ride from
Wed, 07/08/2009 - 14:04It does rock. :)
I ride from west of the Junction to near the North York Civic Centre, 2-3 times per week. Those lanes remove one of big challenges, which was to get to Davenport (from there I go north on Caledonia).
My next wishes are a hassle free way to cross the 401 and a wintertime way to get past the Don Valley Ravine. A girl can dream.
Ben
401
Wed, 07/08/2009 - 14:15Where do you want to cross the 401?
If you're on the Humber trail it couldn't be easier. Somewhere on this site there's an explanation of a good way to make the manoeuvrer at Yonge.
BJH (not verified)
East of Caledonia. The Humber
Wed, 07/08/2009 - 14:36East of Caledonia.
The Humber trail skews west and I start just east of it. I'm already riding 20k, I don't need to add an extra 5k. When you cross the 401 using it you are almost as far west as Islington. Plus I despise riding paths in the afternoon in the summer. Way too many pedestrians and the bike path goes through the outfield of a well used ball diamond.
The crossing at Yonge isn't what I'd call hassle free or efficient.
Right now I cross at Dufferin, making a left off Bridgeland and turing off Dufferin at Billy Bishop. I don't like crossing at Bathurst or Avenue Rd. The lanes are narrow and the road surface is crappy.