Man faces six charges in fail-to-remain collision
Broadcast time: 11:28 Friday, November 21, 2008
Traffic Services
On Friday, November 14, 2008, at 2:27 a.m., police responded to a call for a fail-to-remain collision in the Dovercourt Road/Argyle Street area.
Sultan Ahmed, 38, of Maple, has been charged with:
1) Criminal negligence causing bodily harm,
2) Dangerous operation causing bodily harm,
3) Fail to stop at scene of accident bodily harm,
4) Attempt to obstruct justice,
5) Aggravated assault,
6) Assault with weapon.
He is scheduled to appear in court at Old City Hall, on Friday, November 21, 2008, room 101, at 1 p.m.
Anyone with information is asked to contact police at 416-808-1900, Crime Stoppers
Media Updates:
- Cabbie charged in bizarre Dovercourt altercation with cyclist - National Post
- Cabbie charged with assaulting cyclist who had leg amputated - CBC Toronto
Comments
anthony
More info
Fri, 11/21/2008 - 13:06The press release put out by the police can be found at:
http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/pdfs/15417.pdf
Albert Khoel writes:
anthony
A bit more about the process
Fri, 11/21/2008 - 18:14Yvonne Bambrick of the Toronto Cyclists Union writes:
Albert Koehl replies:
The EnigManiac
Good news
Fri, 11/21/2008 - 13:49While some might suggest there is a strong case for a charge of attempted murder, it seems the police and the Crown feel they have a reasonable chance at convictions of lesser offences. I hope the cabbie is found guilty of each and every count. Let
s all hope that justice prevails and the cyclist recovers and rejoins the biking community. He
ll need a lot of support.eric (not verified)
maniac cyclist severed leg
Tue, 12/09/2008 - 01:36ok i've heard enough of whining and complaining from all you cyclist that feel you own the road....you don't.i am a walker a cyclist and a driver....there are bad apples in all of these drivers. the truth to be told is that this cyclist is a maniac and a true menice to our roads and public.the man did not work in a night club he worked in an after hours private club which is under investigation by the police(a late nite drug place and he was fired)the 5000 dollar bike he was riding was stolen from someone else....the man is a drug addict and alcholic and is on medication for a.d.d.i believe everything the cabbie sais and nothing that chris sais.....very unfortunate for chris he suffers the injures he does however he probably did provoke this entire incident and probably did try to rob the cabbie.i have seen this idiot in action before and he truly is a bad person,he spent the nite in a bar before attempting to cycle home, don't you think he was drunk,of course he was...chris is a person no one would want to meet.....very violent and aggressive...a strong man with martial arts behind him....what could the cabbie do????there are signs of a struggle.....why would a father of four children, married, with a great driving record and a great job ever put himself into this kind of position,he is an experience driver in the city and sees this all the time...makes no sense.this chris truly got what he deserved if not for this incident maybe for all the homeless people in the parks and streets that he beat up practicing his new moves that he would see and learn from tv fighting shows....yes this is all true...... i feel very sorry for the cabbie and his family to have crossed the path of the maniac and i feel sorry for all the cyclists that are making this something it's not....before passing judgement learn the facts..........good luck to the cabbie please have mercy on him this was not his fault....he was only trying to save himself from being beatin anymore and i am sure had no intent to sever a leg but only to escape.......cyclists,drivers and walkers need to respect each other a whole lot more and leave space for each other where ever you are.....
Richard Guy Briggs (not verified)
Amputee cyclists
Fri, 11/21/2008 - 15:54While I acknowledge the unfortunate cyclist has had to have his leg amputated, I do know two cyclists who have kept riding despite losing the use of one leg. One is an amputee with a prosthetic and the other was fortunately only temporarily unable to use a leg due to a break which healed. Both ride recumbent tricycles. My sympathies to the cyclist, hoping he did nothing to deserve a charge (I'm thinking self-defense here), and that he recovers medically as quickly as possible. The loss of a limb is no doubt going to be a big adjustment for the cyclist. When the time comes, I wish that cyclist the courage and support to attempt to cycle again, in whatever form that may take.
This case certainly sounds like a case of attempted vehicular manslaughter. May the cabbie find peace and let's hope this incident can prevent others.
tino
Ride again
Fri, 11/21/2008 - 16:16Well put Richard. Thank you Albert for the update regarding the legal side. I hope the cyclist recovers as well as Ron Freeman did when he was doored and fell under a truck on College.
May he ride like Dexter ...
http://tino.ca/dexter.mov
anthony
More Media follow up
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 00:05Toronto Sun's update:
http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2008/11/21/7493046.html
CTV
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20081121/cabbie_cyclist_0...
Toronto Star
http://www.thestar.com/GTA/Crime/article/541283
Spacing
http://spacing.ca/wire/2008/11/21/taxi-driver-charged-for-assault-on-cyc...
Take The lane
http://therecord.blogs.com/take_the_lane/2008/11/cabbie-charged-after-cy...
York Region.com
http://www.yorkregion.com/article/84881
Iakub Henschen (not verified)
What to do ...
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 12:13I see these things almost every day on the road -
There are two questions of interest that result:
A) What makes cab drivers think they have the right to behave like that in traffic, rather than being mindful, civil, helpful, professional ... ?
B) What can we do to make cab/cyclist encounters safer?
If I just let it go, will it not just encourage such behaviour? If I swat their trunk, will it not just harden their attitude?
Some time ago I saw a "door-prize" tag - you probably know what that is. I thought that was a promising approach. I am thinking of tickets to hand out to cabs, mentioning how to do things better (use flashers, let cyclists pass safely, maintain spaces ... appreciate us not clogging traffic). Engage cabbies in a conversation, work to get our encounters back on a human level, rather than confrontations between abstract, faceless antagonists...
"Taxi tickets" - perhaps an activity for TCU?
(Oh and while you're thinking, how about going down to Dovercourt/Argyle and tying a white ribbon?)
Ride safe.
hamish wilson (not verified)
yes, what to do?
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 14:10At times cabbies don't have it easy and safe, but that said, I'm pleased that there are a set of relatively stronger charges that bolster the NO of using car/cab as a weapon.
Iakub has listed a good list of problems; but yes, what to do?
I was nearly doored by an uncaring cab on Bloor who told me what to do with myself, and the cops when I called essentially hung up on me. Geoffrey's treatment after being run down from behind is a far worse failure of police to not truly protect unarmoured civilians. While some of the cops are great, there's a systemic "carism" that permeates this Kultchur and then beyond the biases there are problems of one-vs-one and who to believe? So the city's Licensing Commission may be as ineffective as some other parts of the city.
There may be a leverage point with insurance. TaxiNews last edition had a story about only one insurance company being willing to insure TO cabs - maybe someone could find out the number/contact for this company and then we make a point of calling in bad cab driving to it, and see if market forces help improve driving?
And yes, Dexter is truly hopeful. I saw his example for the first time last night at the Bike Pirates film night - and folks should go back up to tino's good link.
Maybe if we got a nice still from that show, printed it up as a supportive card and get a thousand of us to sign it...
Luke Siragusa
Re: yes, what to do?
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 19:12Driving cab is a horrible job: it’s dangerous and the pay is a pittance. If I recall correctly the assailant in this case was a family man: what father would willingly work the graveyard shift of a menial job if it wasn’t out of absolute necessity? I suspect these aspects may have ratcheted up the ambient stress level and contributed perhipherally to an aggressive temperament lashing out.
Was it the Globe that mentioned the cabby had rented the cab from another license holder, and that Beck Taxi knew nothing about him? This is what comes of the City presiding over the industry: shoddy standards -- if any at all, poverty wages and parasitic practices.
Instead of the Licensing Commission inculcating the sector with anything remotely resembling professionalism, it functions to furnish a few lard asses somewhere within the bureaucratic labyrinth with a good living. Why derail the gravy train by actually doing something?
Forget about any reform on that front any time soon.
AnnieD
As far as that goes
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 15:31"Cabs deliberately closing the gap between car and curb to prevent bikes from passing"
If it's not a "no stopping" zone or bike lane, then that's exactly how I want cabs to stop to let passengers on and off, as long as they allow enough time for nearby cyclists to get by before pulling in. Any other cyclists who come along as the passenger is being dropped off or picked up should be passing on the left.
Annie
Iakub Henschen (not verified)
AnnieD said "If its not..."
Sun, 11/23/2008 - 13:03"... a no stopping" zone or bike lane, then that's exactly how I want cabs to stop to let passengers on and off"
I'm of course referring to cabs blocking you at red lights or in slow moving traffic, not discharging passengers. A culture that's deliberately antagonistic? Simply not mindful? Your call. I see that practically every day downtown.
AnnieD
Ah! Then we're definitely in agreement.
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 12:10That behaviour isn't limited nor particularly specific to cabs, though. Seems to be most common in places where cars get very backed up - clearly hurts when cyclists filter ahead of them. A bit of a speck versus log thing happening? They complain that we pass them on the right at stop lights and stop signs, forcing them to pass us on the other side of the intersection. Hello? We could just as easily complain that they pass us agressively in between intersections, forcing us to filter past them when they get stuck in bumper to bumper line-ups at a stop sign or light. It's leapfrog either way. And the argument that we're passing on the right makes it wrong doesn't pass muster - drivers pass left turning cars on the right all the time. If the gutter is going to be treated as a separate lane when they want to pass us, then it should maintain that status at intersections.
frank (not verified)
hi
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 17:38this is a sad scenario it would have been better if the biker decided to take a cab home instead then we would not have had this mess and both men would have been happy the cabbie because he made money and the biker becasuse he got home early (with both legs).
Why do bad things happen to good hard working people trying to survive in this rotten world.
Luke Siragusa
Re: hi
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 19:15Hmm, let's see. How about: bad things happen because brutal morons consider separating innocents from their lives -- or in this case, limbs -- an acceptable method of dispute resolution?
Elevating the cabby to the rank of victim, worthy of sympathy is absurd: he's not the victim of this "sad scenario", he's its architect.
frank (not verified)
hi
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 17:40this is a sad scenario it would have been better if the biker decided to take a cab home instead then we would not have had this mess and both men would have been happy the cabbie because he made money and the biker becasuse he got home early (with both legs).
Why do bad things happen to good hard working people trying to survive in this rotten world.
jamesmallon (not verified)
point?
Sat, 11/22/2008 - 19:11What point are you trying to make, tool?
geoffrey (not verified)
the only thing lower than a bicyclist is a cab driver
Sun, 11/23/2008 - 23:22doh! the cyclist wasn't blamed for being hit for a change. no claims it was his fault for not wearing a helmet. nonetheless the media did not fail to enthrall its readership with assertions he may have attempted to rob the cab driver. again. blame the victim. they must have done something wrong, right? oh, yeah. they were pushing peddles on the motorholicway.
when the police released they were unable to obtain a coherent statement from the cyclist it sounded to me like deja vu:
http://sockpuppet.ca/xray
gee. hospital administered medication couldn't have any bearing on that, right?
how do you fall off a bike and land on your back if you are not hit from behind?
if this were anything but a cab do you think those charges would have been laid? do you really think highly visible cabs are more likely to drive aggressively than couriers who have no distinguishing marks on their vehicles? do you really think charges like these will be applied to jane and joe commuter the next time they centre punch a bicyclist with their hood ornament?
anthony
Nothing new, just more media coverage
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 09:04http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081124.wbike24/BNSt...
Comment: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081124.COLETTS24-11/T...
Timmins: http://www.timminspress.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1312003
North Bay: http://www.nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1311367
Ottawa: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/newsbriefs/story.html?id=c2f7cf...
Edmonton: http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2008/11/22/7498151-sun.html
Joseph (not verified)
What happened
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:13The Star reported the cab was damaged at the back (smashed tailights, dented trunk). Seems what may have happened is this cabbie reversed into the cyclist, the wheel going over his leg. If this is so, it shows he could have just driven away since the cyclist was behind him.
If he did deliberately run down a cyclist then he is a cowardly scumbag who deserves the harshest of sentences. Imagine runnng down someone like a dog then fleeing the scene to leave him to bleed to death. What scum.
Rich (not verified)
Boy, do I like eggs!
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 14:39The fact of the matter that he left the scene, and then the charge of obstructing justice, I think he's in more trouble than people think. I hope he gets put in jail for his stupidity. A very long time. Depending on what the judge believes, it could approach attempted murder.
Mr. Marbles (not verified)
(Address deleted)
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 01:21Moderator's note: I have deleted the address that was posted here. If anyone is crazy enough to do any kind of vigilantism, you're on your own. The information (name and address) were from publicly-available sources, but could be wrong.
effin wright (not verified)
posting someone's address
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 10:05Mr. Marbles: You're a dink. Take the guy's address down.
effin wright (not verified)
posting someone's address
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 10:07Mr. Marbles: You're a certified dink. Take the guy's address down.
Darren_S
Lynch mob?
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 04:45I think the people on this site are much more mature than those who get involved in lynch mobs. There is no value in posting the accused's home address.
Ctos (not verified)
Lynch Mob
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 09:28While I don't think a lynch mob is appropriate, the conflict between cyclists and car drivers has become worse and worse over the years I have lived in the city and the police still seem to be overwhelmingly on the side of drivers. If the authorities are unwilling to protect our rights, at some point we will be required to take things into our own hands. Furthermore, if the justice system does not mete out an appropriate punishment in this case, I think having the offender's address made public is appropriate.
Its time for cyclists to stop being bullied.
brian
Moderators!?!
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 11:09Moderators? Tino? Herb?
Cut these posts!
Brian
vic
Court update
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 12:19Michael's Bloor-Lansdowne Blog has an entry about the driver's court hearing:
http://bloorlansdowne.blogspot.com/2008/11/taxi-driver-accused-of-hit-an...
Ctos (not verified)
Lynch Mob and Addresses
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 14:38While a lynch mob response to Mr. Ahmed's actions is unacceptable, there is absolutely nothing wrong with telling Sultan Ahmed exactly how one feels about his actions that fateful night. Taking the law into one's own hands is illegal, public shaming of those who have committed wrongs is not.
If its OK for local citizens to be informed of sex offenders in their neighbourhood (actually a legal requirement), its also OK for the public to be informed that a lying ("he was trying to rob me"), vicious (he backed up over the cyclist) scumbag, who resorts to violence as a first option, is their neighbour.
Put the address back up.
vic
Address isnt useful
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 15:21The address and phone number can be looked up by anyone who really wants it.
Besides, the driver didn't make bail, so he's not going to be at home anytime soon. Is harassing his family worth it?
Lastly....the driver has been ACCUSED and CHARGED, but not yet convicted.
Ryan (not verified)
For one thing, the driver
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 15:29For one thing, the driver hasn't been convicted of anything yet. For another, he was denied bail, so is unlikely to be at home any time soon. And really, the problem is that he's a dangerous driver - if someone wants to post licenses/cab numbers of dangerous drivers, I'm okay with that, but home addresses is a step too far.
Ryan
On the other hand...
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 15:54... this might be a good occasion to tell Beck Taxi (and other taxi companies) what you think of their drivers' attitudes towards cyclists and the general rules of the road. As much as this is an extreme incident, it's a rare day when I don't have to veer around a cab parked in a bike lane (or, like today, half-backed out into a bike lane.)
Ctos (not verified)
Perhaps Ryan and Vic have
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 16:16Perhaps Ryan and Vic have greater faith in the justice system than I do.
This scumbag viciously and intentionally attacked a cyclist (damage to back of cab, not front), drove away as he was bleeding out and then tried to concoct a story about how he was being robbed to justify his actions (robbery would not justify his actions in any case).
Mr. Ahmed will not lose his leg or be permanently harmed in any other way by our "justice" system whereas the victim has been permanently affected.
A lynch mob and/or harrasssing his family is inappropriate but a nicely worded letter of condemnation addressed to Mr. Ahmed would be completely appropriate.
I respect the blog administrator's decision to remove the address although I disagree with it.
Darren_S
Addressing
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 16:33Ctos, while I think that the accused has been under charged and is guilty as hell nothing will be gained by posting his home address. It will not change a justice system that is broke nor help mend the victim.
Years ago when a cyclist was doored and received serious leg injuries on College St. we went on strike. Got off our bikes and marched up and down College. While the value of a strike is debatable, it sure felt good.
brian
Think outside the box
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 16:53Ctos in particular,
Think outside the box of accusation and damnation, about the accused's wife, children, family, friends, etc. He was clearly not thinking of them at the moment of commission; the accused's actions were his own, and have nothing to do with those people. They are innocents who depend on him. A letter addressed to that address may affect them adversely. And they are worse off enough as it is. What if you had made that mistake, and someone was calling for the community to heap scorn, abuse, and threats on your home and family? Put yourself in someone else's shoes.
Write a letter of support to the cyclist, and let him know you're behind him and his recovery 110 percent. This cyclist is in a position of excellent power, because he has not only been involved in a collision that has garnered significant attention,, he survived.
When was the last time Toronto's cycling community got behind a victim in their time of need and carried them thru to a full recovery? This cyclist should be given a modified recumbent paid for by donations from the community, and taken out for rides every week. That's the kind of "mob action" I'd like to see.
peace
brian
Ctos (not verified)
Brian - Thanks for the input but no thanks
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 18:13Brian,
First of all, notice I said the letter was to be addressed to Mr. Ahmed, not his family. It is high time the community at large start informing wayward members about their deficiencies. Jail sentences and fines don't seem to do the trick; its time for public humiliation of animals like Mr. Ahmed.
Placing one's faith in the "justice" system sounds great on paper but having lived through the experience I know it is useless. I have an injury from a bike accident that occurred when I was 16 that still bothers me; the cabbie in this case hit me from behind but got off b/c the officer at the scene failed to show up for the court date. Where is the justice?
Secondly, I could not give a rat's ass about the dependents of Mr. Ahmed. They are his responsibility. It was his responsibility to provide for them and he made choices that jeopardize his ability to do so. Ergo they suffer.
Thirdly, Mr. Ahmed did not make a "mistake". He intentionally resorted to violence as a dispute resolution tactic. Mistakes are forgiveable, willfully inflicting violence on another person and then fleeing the scene (as the victim lay bleeding out) is not.
What the Toronto bike community needs is less feel good BS like yours (the fact that you state "This cyclist is in a position of excellent power" as he recovers sans limb actually sickens me) and more militant action against drivers who have little or no respect for cyclists.
Instead of putting oneself in the shoes of the family of the perpetrator, perhaps it would be wiser to put oneself in the shoes of the victim.
The EnigManiac
Well said, Brian
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 18:23I agree with your suggestion and think perhaps all of us here need to come together behind the seriously injured cyclist. He's going to need a lot of support. Let's see what we can do for him. Although this would not be my reason for donating toward a modified recumbent, I also recognize that the media would probably latch on to such a feel-good story and a public who have been ever-more critical of cyclists lately may have a more positive perception of us.
I understand and empathize with those who want to lash out at the cabbie. If it is found that he is guilty of the charges he is facing, then he will be proven a bully, coward, homicidal and inhumane as well as a selfish liar. But how would we look if we went vigilante on him? The sympathy would all swing to him. Is that what we want?
The EnigManiac
Ctos...
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 18:25...maybe the need to vent should be on the entire cab industry. We all have countless horror stories about them, after all. Maybe we should demonstrate outside their compounds, slowing them up, etc. We could get our message across to them effectively that way, don't you think?
Ctos (not verified)
EnigManiac
Wed, 11/26/2008 - 18:38I don't know what the solution is regarding cabbies in this city but I do know;
A) There is a problem;
B) Little has been done about it;
C) I'm tired of cyclists being treated as second class citizens on the road.
Furthermore, let me state once more that I do not condone vigilantism but I do believe that the community at large must start "policing" its members. The police certainly won't do it; they are busy tracking down the Bronfmann's stolen jewellry instead of protecting the rights of us lesser citizens.
There is a world of difference between sending a letter of condemnation to Mr. Ahmed (legal option) and taking the law into one's own hands (illegal option). Mr. Ahmed needs to know that regardless of the legal outcome of this trial (likely a short jail sentence unless he is a repeat offender), he has earned the derision of his community.