This is the text of an email I sent to the City of Mississauga and Mississauga Transit this morning. I also phoned their customer service line and spoke to a very friendly and helpful person there.
Please pass this email on to the appropriate people within the City and Mississauga Transit. I will also follow up with a phone call.
Mississauga Transit drivers are typically very courteous and safe people. I experience their professional behaviour every day when I ride my bicycle to work, or sometimes take the bus. They are usually very good at giving me plenty of space when passing, they sometimes smile and wave as they go by, and I usually feel safe being around them. The drivers are also very friendly when I board the buses.
Today, however, my experience changed drastically.
At 8:52am on Burnhamthorpe Rd. at Shaver Ave. in Toronto, heading west towards Mississauga, a bus came within inches of hitting me, forcing me off the side of the road. Details:
I was riding westbound in the right curb lane, moving at about 25km/h. As you may know, the asphalt in that area is *terrible*, so I had to ride a bit further out into the lane than usual to avoid the worst ruts and bumps. There was plenty of room in the left lane for other vehicles to pass.
The driver came up behind me and honked his horn. I assumed he was just warning me that he was passing, so I waved to acknowledge. As he passed by me, he came awfully close, probably less then a metre away from me. As soon as the front of the bus passed by, the driver started moving to the right again, pushing me towards the curb. Had I not swerved hard to the right and braked, then bailed onto the curb, I would have certainly been hit and possibly caught under the wheels.
I caught up with the driver again at Burnhamthorpe and Cawthra (I believe) where the road was closed because of a motor vehicle collision. I had a brief chat with him, but he denied any knowledge of seeing me or running me off the road. I find this hard to believe, since he swerved around me and honked while he did it.
The lying, aggressive driving, and bad attitude of this driver really started my morning off well. Coming within inches of a fast-moving bus is both SCARY and extremely DANGEROUS. I expect that Mississauga transit will discipline this driver, and follow up with me about it.
I will also file a Traffic Violation Report with Toronto Police this evening.
Bus Number: 0152 (One of the long articulated buses)
Time: Wednesday August 1st 2007, 8:52am
Location: Westbound on Burnhamthorpe at Shaver, TorontoMy contact details are:
[snipped address and phone numbers]Thank you for your fast attention to this matter.
I will post a followup when I hear back.
Notes:
The city's public info email address gets forwarded on to the appropriate department. However, you can also send email directly to Mississauga Transit at mtcustomer.service@mississauga.ca. The contact phone number is 905-615-4636.
To file a Traffic Violation Report with the Toronto Police, you can grab a PDF of the form from the ARC website.
Comments
Anonymous (not verified)
That's Assault
Wed, 08/01/2007 - 12:09I think you should talk to the Crown Attorney about filing attemped assault charges against the driver. People die because of that type of behaviour, and not just cyclists.
Steve (not verified)
Kissing Buses
Wed, 08/01/2007 - 12:26it's not just up there, down here in Rochester, a couple of times now, I've had buses blow by me. Both times waaaayy too close for comfort. After the first time, I called the company and spoke with someone who was friendly on the phone and said they do take that kind of thing seriously. It did happen a second time. Again, too close, almost pushed me into the parked cars.
I almost caught up with one bus. Whenever I'm buzzed by a car or bus or truck, I want to catch up to them and ask them if they have kids and would they mind if I came by and drove like they do in THEIR neighborhood while THIER kids are biking or skateboarding.
Matt Rennick (not verified)
Awful!
Wed, 08/01/2007 - 12:49A month or two ago some friends of mine and I rode out to Oakville and back from Toronto. On our way home, while passing through Mississauga on Lakeshore a driver very nearly hit us after passing us.
We chased him down and caught up to him at Longbranch to confront him;
Us: Do you realize you nearly just took all three of us out?
Driver: I passed you
Us: You know you swerved into us, come on now!
Driver: I just passed you
Us: Well then maybe you don't realize that need more room to pass when you're driving a giant f***ing bus?!?!?!
It continued in the same vein until we gave up and rode away. I did not file a report because I may or may not have uttered threats of physical violence (Foolish, I'm aware, but I was fired up and couldn't hold my tongue) and wouldn't want to trouble myself legally as a result so we just let sleeping dogs lie.
Myrcurial (not verified)
Mississauga Transit on Lakeshore
Thu, 09/20/2007 - 12:37Yeah - had this happen on the stretch of Lakeshore leading eastward to Longbranch too. I'm thinking it must be the same driver. I complained to Miss. Transit and received the usual response. Long post about it here: http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-56965.html
Darren_S
Vic Park
Wed, 08/01/2007 - 13:42Victoria Park Ave just north of Danforth is a great place to get smoked by a bus. The buses turn right there onto Denton to enter Vic Park Station. Vic Park north of the intersection goes down to one lane. If you take the middle of the curb lane while waiting for the stop light the bus drivers go nuts. They want you to sit right at the curb, right next to all of the bus tire marks on the sidewalk.
anthony
Compliments & complaints
Wed, 08/01/2007 - 19:43I, like you, have found the overwhelming majority of bus drivers very competent operators of their vehicles, and also very considerate to other road users. It is unfortunate when any driver performs unsafe maneuvers on our roads, but even more so for our bus drivers. While we are too often quick to criticize, it is good that you mentioned that your own case this morning with the driver was a rare occurrence. And that is also why it is so important that you brought it to the attention of Mississauga Transit.
I know that the TTC takes complaints like this seriously, and I would expect that Mississauga Transit would do the same. I hope you hear back soon.
Dermanus (not verified)
The past
Wed, 08/01/2007 - 23:46I've had bad experiences in the past with Mississuaga Transit. Last summer I worked at a company in Rexdale, and I rode from Mimico. I almost got driven off the road at least a dozen times. However, wth my current, different route along the Queensway I have never had an problems (although this is TTC, not MT). I suspect it's a matter of drivers. I never got a good look, but I'm willing to be it was the same two or three drivers that always gave me trouble on my previous route. My current route probably has the same two or three drivers who are all decent.
Of course, it could be that I'm a more assertive rider now, and don't even allow the opportunity for that sort of nonsense. The zen of riding, and all that. Best way to avoid a fight is to prevent one from happening and such.
vic
Mississauga Bus
Thu, 08/02/2007 - 13:39Thanks for the comments, everyone.
I dropped off my Traffic Violation Report to the Toronto Police last night.
Not much followup from MT yet, though the person I spoke to took a detailed report, and I got an email response as well:
Anonymous: Nah, I won't file assault charges. It's very unlikely that I could get anywhere with that, especially without any witnesses. I doubt I could even get any kind of HTA offense against the driver either. On my Traffic Violation report, I just asked them to send a letter.
Steve: Yeah, I hear complaints about bus drivers everywhere. I've seen bad ones in various cities, but as I said in my email, the majority of them seem really good (same experience with truck drivers). This one, however, was the most dangerous incidnt I've been in.
Matt: Sorry to hear about your encounter too. I've been hot-headed with motorists before as well, but lately I'm trying to take a more calm approach. This time I even tried to give the driver a chance to apologize, but he just totally denied everything. BTW...I love the "Cranks" shirt that "Erin" is wearing (photo on your blog). I'd buy that in an instant if I could.
Darren_S: Maybe a tight deadline is making them antsy to get into the station? Need a pee break?? :)
Anthony: My impression so far is that they're taking the complaint seriously. I'll know just how seriously once I hear back again after their "full investigation".
Dermanus: Yeah, it's likely only certain drivers that cause the problems. They make the rest of the good ones look very bad. Truth is, I'd rather share the road with all the buses than the maniacs in cars. I was riding quite assertively when this incident happened, so I don't think my own behaviour could have made the situation any better.
Cheers,
Vic
Matt Rennick (not verified)
Good news
Thu, 08/02/2007 - 14:08That's great that they're going to follow up with it. I wish Cab companies took complaints that seriously.
I agree, the calm approach is by far the correct approach - not always the easiest, nor even the most effective - but the correct approach none the less.
The Cranks are Erin's bike crew from back home (New Mexico - he just recently moved here) - I'll let him know the shirt is well received in Toronto. ;)
Anne (not verified)
Mississauga Buses
Sun, 08/12/2007 - 21:01Yikes!
I see more and more roads in Mississauga now have the new bike lanes. I hope that helps.
Unfortunately, I also see fewer and fewer kids wearing their helmets. You letter is an excellent reminder that biking can be dangerous!
Anonymous (not verified)
These are Typicall commets
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 11:05These are Typicall commets by idiot cyclists ,who, for some reason beleive that coming within 1 meter of you is too close? Get a life. When the driver honked he was telling you that you were probably too far into the lane!!!!. Next time stay close to the curb and everything will be peachy.Learn your place on the road before you bad mouth someone,who,probably has been driving longer than you've been on this planet!
Anonymous (not verified)
Actually, cyclists are
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 11:43Actually, cyclists are entitled to a full half lane of the road. And passing motorists are required, under the HTA, to pass in the other lane, just like they would a car.
Learn your place, and learn to drive.
Anonymous (not verified)
I'd like to add, that I'm a
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 11:45I'd like to add, that I'm a 30 year old cyclist. So if you've been driving longer than I've been alive, I expect that your spelling skills should be better.
Darren_S
Passing in gray area
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 12:13"Actually, cyclists are entitled to a full half lane of the road".
It seems you are making reference to s.148(1) of the HTA that talks about vehicles in general and traveling in opposed directions.
s.148(4) speaks to bicycles and allows them "sufficient room", which is somewhat vague and subject to interpretation.
s.148(6) makes the case for allowing the cyclist to take the lane if the cyclists feels that is the safest place to be. Even still, a driver could pass within inches if they felt it was sufficient.
The Coroner's report makes light of this and asks for minimum set distances for passing.
Aidan
Speaking of "typicall comments" (sic)...
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 12:06I don't know which I find more "typicall": the fact that the most ignorant type of driver thinks there is a point posting on a cycling forum, the fact that driver is ignorant of the laws of the road (as opposed to those of the jungle), or the fact that there are at least eight spelling or grammar errors.
Maybe it's satire.
vic
Dear Anonymous...
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 12:09Please read the whole article again, particularly this section:
The driver came up behind me and honked his horn. I assumed he was just warning me that he was passing, so I waved to acknowledge. As he passed by me, he came awfully close, probably less then a metre away from me. As soon as the front of the bus passed by, the driver started moving to the right again, pushing me towards the curb. Had I not swerved hard to the right and braked, then bailed onto the curb, I would have certainly been hit and possibly caught under the wheels.
It's not so much the close passing that bothered me, but the fact that the driver RAN ME OFF THE ROAD. The driver started moving the bus towards me before completely passing. The bus was literally within a couple of inches of hitting me by the time I was right next to the curb.
If I had been riding my bike as close to the curb as possible, I would have been hit for sure. I save myself by bailing out off the road.
Anonymous (not verified)
I agree, cyclists think for
Sat, 11/24/2007 - 19:42I agree, cyclists think for some reason they deserve to share the road with me. Until bikes fork over $600 for taxes and permits per annum........you do not have the same rights,besides why would you chance it, when the only thing between you and the pavement is skin!
Aidan
Ignoramous
Sat, 11/24/2007 - 20:57Hey ignoramous, comment somewhere your opinion matters. If you think yours matters on the road, explain that to the judge if you take matters into your own hands. Hope you drive better than you spell or punctuate.
Anonymous (not verified)
Aiden
Mon, 11/26/2007 - 10:07Hey Aiden. I'm a cyclist, and a motorist. So I do pay taxes and insurance, yet choose to ride my bike instead of driving my car.
But that doesn't matter, since taxes from roads come out of public purses, and are not paid for by gas taxes. Even if that were the case, we pay for all sorts of things in Canada that we don't use. I don't have kids, yet pay taxes that are used in public schools, I haven't been to the doctors in a while, yet paid a hefty Health Premium, and my taxes are used to pave and patrol roads and highways which I only make use of when on my bike.
Think before you type.
tanya
Please use your name
Mon, 11/26/2007 - 11:19You don't have to be logged in when you comment - just type in something in the name box. This makes it much easier to follow the back and forths where we have a lot of different people named "Anonymous" making comments.
I'm confused with all the Anonymous comments, but it sounds like the person who originally made the comment that cyclists should be close to the curb is also a cyclist. There is NO obligation of a cyclist to hug a curb. The cyclist should take as much space as he/she needs to maneuver safely in a straight and predictable fashion (hugging the curb may cause sudden swerves around road debris). If the lane is too narrow to share safely its best to ride in the middle to indicate to passing vehicles they need to CHANGE LANES in order to pass.
While you may be more skilled than the rest of us, able to negotiate the bumpy gutter and not mind mirrors coming within inches of your shoulder... most of us want to have something called a margin of error around us.
Please have some manners and save the horn for what it is supposed to be used for - a warning of impending danger.
Aidan
Anonymous and Bellicose
Mon, 11/26/2007 - 13:35Hmmm... The 'Anonymous' who is bellicose is easy to track, because of the writing 'style', propensity to confuse one person's comments with another's (I did not comment on taxes) and lack of enough decency to spell a person's name correctly.
I would suggest that the other Anonymous people attach some kind of name, so you are not confused with this person.
Joe LaFortune (not verified)
Anonymous...
Sun, 11/25/2007 - 02:28I won't berate you for your spelling or grammar. I'm sure you're tired of it by now. I will, however, refer you to the Ontario Driver's Handbook which cites the HTA and the laws that all users of the roads are supposed to abide by. You may want to be familiar with those regulations if you are driving.
Under Sharing The Road With Cyclists:
Bicycles and mopeds that cannot keep up with traffic are expected to keep to the right of the lane; however, they can use any part of the lane if necessary for safety, such as to avoid potholes and sewer grates. Cyclists need a metre on either side of themselves as a safety zone. When passing a cyclist, allow at least one metre between your car and the cyclist. If the lane is too narrow to share, change lanes to pass the cyclist.
As for 'rights' to the road, I remind you that property taxes pay for the roads, not insurance, gas taxes or other fees and taxes that motorists pay. Every cyclists is, in one way or another, either directly or indirectly paying for the right to access the public space that is the road. Every level of government recognizes and protects the cyclists equal right to the road. Whether you agree or not is immaterial. In fact, there are some who contend that a motorist is a GUEST upon the public space by virtue of requiring a license to access a space that is natural for pedestrians and cylists.
While it is evident you resent paying for insurance, keep in mind that motorists are required to have insurance because of the devastating damage cars cause when involved in collisions. Cyclists do not regularly inflict death or serious injury or cause significant property damage.
Clearly, you've come here to troll and flame, to stir up a bunch of cyclists and, to sme degree you might succeed, but if you truly want to be effective, stop whining about how unfair it is that you have to pay insurance and buy gas, for that merely demonstrates how envious you are of us cyclists, and be both informed and accurate in your citation of laws and conditions. Otherwise, you have no credibility. But thanks for visiting anyway.
Aidan
Children
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 12:26Ignorant drivers are like children: you can't give them a gray area. The law should plainly state that you cannot pass a cyclist in the same lane. Period. Nothing else will make the roads safe for cyclists. If motorists don't like this, give us our own lanes, and we'll get off the others.
Darren_S
Children may get their fingers burnt
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 12:34It is hard to tell if the new road racing rules will help cyclists. It uses some pretty specific language when it comes to passing. So far the interpretation used by the cops is pretty wide with respect to speed. If it follows for passing it may turn out to be a great deterrent to stop drivers from aggressively passing really close. Will have to wait for its first application to see how it pans out.
vic
Darren_S, That would have
Fri, 11/23/2007 - 12:51Darren_S,
That would have been pretty hilarious to see the police tow away a bus :)
-Vic