Paul Larsen of Toronto makes some interesting cargo bikes in his spare time. While Larsen's Toronto-based business, Invodane, focuses on creative engineering solutions for large-scale industrial projects, he's also been dabbling with making the cargo bikes that he grew up with in Denmark. Since moving to Canada he has not seen such a large amount of interest as there is this year. On a lazy Sunday I decided to go see Larsen's collection of bikes.
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Larsen proudly showed off his collection that included his own creations and imported cargo bikes and trikes from Europe. As I arrived he was just handing off the retrofitted cargo bike that a customer was just picking up for his two kids, which included two kid seats that are secured firmly to the cargo bay of the bike. We then proceeded to try out his custom large flat bed cargo trike and followed up with a couple cargo trikes imported from Denmark and a Bullitt cargo bike, a very light, narrow and long two-wheeled cargo bike.
The easiest to maneouvre were the two-wheelers since the loads were quite low and I could easily lean into turns. People seem to think that trikes are inherently stable since they have three wheels but they don't seem to realize that most roads are sloped which means you are always fighting against the lean of the trike whether going straight or turning corners. There has been some improvement with the fancier trikes made by companies such as Nihola, which have front wheels which swivel independently, much like those of a car.
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Unfortunately, Larsen is only producing cargo bikes as a hobby. He's doing this, I imagine, simply for the love of the bikes and making people happy because he isn't able to pay for his own labour. That means he's willing but don't expect him to meet any deadlines. It would take some work to make this a commercially-viable bike, unlike what other cargo bike makers are pumping out. Larsen is still a good place to go if you want a custom configuration or if you want something creative.
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Comments
Unbiased poster (not verified)
Wider and longer then an E-Bike!
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 13:29Hey that should not be in the bike lanes or paths because it is longer and wider then even a scooter style E-Bike!!! According to TCU's complaints that is about E-Bikes, it goes both ways you know.
electric
Is that you again Ken Finch?
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 21:26Don't let that troll hijack this discussion.
The bikes are impressive, but I'm not sure that specific cycling community here would even be ready for mass-scale roll out of such things.
andrew d (not verified)
What a nice thread to burst
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 14:12What a nice thread to burst in on, unbiased. While they may gum up or slow down lanes, these cargo bikes/trikes are not likely to attain very much in the way of speed, so they're more of an impediment to zipping around than safety. About the opposite of the TCU's problem with e-bikes in bike lanes (something I actually don't have a problem with, fwiw).
Unbiased poster (not verified)
E-Bikes are limited to 32kmh
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 15:11E-Bikes are limited to 32kmh maximum. Most cyclists can very easily go faster, like 40kmh or faster. I am past all the time by cyclists. So the falsified fear mongering about E-Bike speeds is easily usurped by any common man/woman.
andrew d (not verified)
Like I said. I doubt people
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 16:09Like I said. I doubt people riding these cargo bikes/trikes would come anywhere approaching that speed. Ok I'm done. No more e-biking in this thread from me! :)
jamesmallon (not verified)
ebikes discussion is tiresome
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 14:51Does every thread have get hijacked for/against ebikes? Yawn. A fine example of why the non-automobile community cannot get its lobby together.
Random cyclist (not verified)
seriously
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 00:42can we get a moderator or something? this is ridiculous, and makes the comments section of this blog not worth reading.
Svend
Good story
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 16:52It's nice to read about someone bringing over a bit of Denmark with them.
A.R. (not verified)
Cargo bikes seem great
Wed, 07/22/2009 - 18:21I'd love to move a lot of cargo by bike, but I'm not prepared to pay a lot for the privilege unfortunately.
Seymore Bikes
Cargo Bikes Rock!
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 08:01If a bike replaces a car - it's good, not bad. The argument that a cyclist wouldn't be able to pass a slow mover in a bike lane is ridiculous. Great story.
Kevin Love
I suggest a Wike bike trailer
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 10:52A.R. wrote:
"I'd love to move a lot of cargo by bike, but I'm not prepared to pay a lot for the privilege unfortunately."
Kevin's comment:
I don't know how you are moving that cargo now, but it is not necessary to get a cargo bike to move lots of cargo. Wike bicycle trailers start at $99. And they are made right here in Ontario in Guelph. See:
http://www.wicycle.com/
herb
Wike to offer cargo bikes
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 21:01It looks like Wike and True North Cycles are teaming up to offer "Box Bike" cargo bikes. Cargo bikes aren't for everyone, but there is a lot more interest from families, couriers and small business. They're great for hauling a couple kids and groceries around, since the load is low and stable and you can see what the kids are up to all the time. But it is an investment (though compared to a car plus insurance plus gas plus repairs it is much, much cheaper).
I like cargo bikes and wish to get one, but for now I'll be sticking to my trailer as well.
PedalPowerPat
can we get a moderator or
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 22:15I for one would rather keep the inane 'dead horse-beating' than give into censorship, as long as they aren't advertising or being racist/hateful, I dont mind what anyone says on this blog or any blog.
lol electric. Almost everyone of your comments makes me smile... Ken Finch lol... haven't seen that page filler in a while.
Svend
DNFTT
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 22:47I don't know which is worse, the trolls or those who troll for them.
Or me, for acknowledging either. :-)
Random cyclist (not verified)
i'm not suggesting censorship
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:07I have no problem with discussions about e-bikes, but i don't see why they need to begin below every freaking post. This article is about cargo bikes for christsakes. It has nothing to do with e-bikes at all, and the poster used only the slightest thread of connection to explain their little jab.
Nor is my complaint partisan - I would feel the same way if someone had posted "These cargo bikes look great - too bad there's no room in the bike lanes because of all the stupid e-bikes."
If people want to argue for or against e-bikes, there are plenty of legitimate places within this forum that are acceptable. A moderator could easily move off-topic comments there.
I don't see why this is so different than someone filling up the discussion space with spam for an online bike store or just random characters.
herb
move comments
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 10:08We'll look into moving comments to a separate forum thread if this happens again.