There was a lot of trash talk about the supposed 'War on the Car' this year. There will be more next year I am sure. Last time I checked it was you and me and dare I say even those who drive
who suffer the effects of car culture, or shall we say, high-carbon consumer capitalism. So get ready for the next stage when car drivers fight back against bike lanes. You know it's coming.
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Random cyclist (not verified)
Who needs subtitles?
Wed, 12/23/2009 - 22:21I've heard all these arguments before except the one about America being a great place because people put the bikes on the roof rack and drive off to the woods to use their bikes.
For the guy who wants someone to carry his bags to his car - you lazy bastard.
electric
Another typical "wise guy"
Thu, 12/24/2009 - 17:44Too bad he hasn't figured out he is the one of the people who has profited from global warming to date.
mike rubbo (not verified)
Do sit-ups pacify?
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 01:42Would anyone like to comment on my personal observation that riding a sit-up bike, like they do all over Europe, one get less grief from motorists?
Maybe it's because sit ups, outside Europe, are associated with women's bikes, and are thus given more courtesy, even though I'm a a guy and I see more and more males regally upright these days. .
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact you are spotted more easily and in turn see better on a sit -up, not having the head down to any extent.
I make eye contact with drivers and reward them for good behavior, like not turning across my path, with a wave. I often consider my rides as driver education courses.
I was thinking about this when putting together a film about David Hembrow, who blogs at; A view from the cycle path. His piece which you can find on my blog is called, Talking to David Hembrow. The blog is; http://situp-cycle.com
This question will become more interesting when those Bixis arrives in town, since all bike share machines are sit-ups, and males everywhere will be not only in sit-ups but step thoughs, for the first time.
Mike Rubbo
Goober McFly (not verified)
Upright cycling
Sat, 12/26/2009 - 17:30I don't know if it does, but it would be interesting if drivers have different attitudes depending on who is riding and how they appear.
I do believe that seeing cyclists looking like average commuters instead of wearing special gear will encourage more riders. Sitting upright and riding sensibly with fenders and cargo carriers will show that cycling can be practical and an everyday normal activity - not just for daredevils or weirdos like me.
Ed
Why the emphasis on "upright"?
Mon, 12/28/2009 - 12:44An upright cycle and regular clothes are probably fine for short trips. Even so, I'd hate to try to wrestle a heavy upright bike up some steps, or into a streetcar, and heaven forbid Union station. Upright bikes are almost never to be seen on off-road paths, because they're not very good for any sort of speed over any sort of distance. I'd hate to be riding an upright into a headwind along the waterfront trail, and that's a route that many commuters use.
Let's not forget that the "special gear" in fact has been developed to be more comfortable and efficient. Again, if you're riding from your condo to the local Starbucks, wearing jeans, a leather jacket, and snazzy boots while tootling along on an upright is just fine. Not so fine for twenty-minute rides in poor weather.
Yes, there's an "equipment snob" school, who ride their Cervelos with only the best team jerseys on Sunday (and they don't necessarily go all that far or fast). But there's also an annoying "anti-equipment-snob" faction that labels anyone wearing lycra, or on an efficient drop-bar bike, as some sort of effete snob not into "everyday cycling".
I think I'll start the "anti-anti-equipment-snob" school, also known as the "anti-'upright-is-the-only-practical-bike'" school. Although I think my manifesto needs more clarity and fewer words.
cruiserboy (not verified)
upright, regular clothes
Mon, 12/28/2009 - 13:05I think that for the non-cyclist/potential future cyclist seeing someone all geared up hunched over a fancy racing bike sort of perpetuates the north-american assumption that cycling is only for fitness freaks a la jogging and not a practical everyday form of transportation and makes them feel they have to get all dressed up just to ride a bike which can be very off-putting for some, also lycra is kinda gay.
cruiserboy (not verified)
uprights are great
Mon, 12/28/2009 - 13:26i love my cruiser. it is a relatively new Marin with an aluminum frame so it is nowhere near as heavy and clunky as some might think. internal 3-speed hub which is perfect for city riding, zero maintenance and gives me great pick-up from a dead stop, effortless comfort as i toddle past the grunting fixies trying to get going again. of course they fly by half a block later. :^) but we usually meet up at the next red light. big fenders=no worries in wet weather. and the comfiest seat ever. also the fat tires eliminate any worry about streetcar tracks. i ride it everywhere I go, parkdale to the beaches and beyond. it may not win any races but it is the most comfortable bike I have ever been on. it is very special to me. plus it looks damn cool imo.
cruiserboy (not verified)
i commute on my cruiser also
Mon, 12/28/2009 - 14:44dufferin to pape and back everyday. easypeasy and no sweat. 30-45 min. but i hate to rush, i would rather enjoy the journey. sorry to gush but my bike rocks!
Ed
Sense and sensibility
Wed, 12/30/2009 - 14:11"I think that for the non-cyclist/potential future cyclist seeing someone all geared up hunched over a fancy racing bike sort of perpetuates the north-american assumption that cycling is only for fitness freaks a la jogging and not a practical everyday form of transportation and makes them feel they have to get all dressed up just to ride a bike which can be very off-putting for some, also lycra is kinda gay."
Well, yeah, riding a bicycle involves some effort, and if it's cold, windy, or rainy, guess what, you're going to get cold and wet on your bicycle. That's one reason to wear "gay" lycra: it's windresistant and dries quickly, even if you don't change when you get there.
And if lycra is gay, what do you call getting your privates chafed, or your knees sore from trying to cycle in jeans?
It's sensible to have specific clothes that are ready for bad weather. Your average everyday clothes aren't. But what do I know, I see people in light hoodies being stylish waiting for the bus at -10, or people wearing their Adidas sneakers in several cm of slush, or people without umbrellas or hats in the pouring rain. Yes, you can wear "everyday" indoor clothing outside, but it doesn't make it comfortable under a lot of the conditions that Toronto can throw at you.
electric
2 kewl 4 skewl
Thu, 12/31/2009 - 00:26Yes, most of the blow-back comes from the fair-weather cyclists who are just traveling a short distance.
Sure you can buy stylish cycle specific gear which looks normal but, it costs a fortune compared to the typical cycling gear.
I just have to laugh at people who say things like "special little outfit" ... I think they should add "hee-haw hee-haw" onto the end of that phrase... but whatever, enjoy your frostbite and soaking wet cotton and rest assured that you still look just like everybody else.
cruiserboy (not verified)
no offense, yeesh
Thu, 12/31/2009 - 00:07i wear jeans all the time and have never felt uncomfortable ever. i wear practical footwear and warm clothes. i just think that dressing up in a special little outfit just to ride a bike is a little silly. sorry. cycling doesn't need to be treated like a sport, for some it is just a nice way to get around.
cruiserboy (not verified)
this makes the point better than me...
Thu, 12/31/2009 - 00:47we all want more people on bikes right?
http://www.copenhagencyclechic.com/2009/06/good-news-and-bad-news-about-...
electric
Yes, and frankly I don't care if they're chic or not.
Thu, 12/31/2009 - 15:48I'm not part of some anti-cyclist agenda trying to rid the world of rain-jackets, baselayers, helmets and clipless shoes - Unlike some people(Mr. Chic, fashion snob) who rail against such people.
So go ahead call a particular cyclist a rube for the way they dress, then make them a scapegoat for the reason cycling fell out of popularity. I just want to know how you're defining what is normal here because you sound like you're a proponent of "chicism". That is to say somebody who holds the view that cycling should involve dressing a certain style to get from point A to B.
It seems you're just replacing function with fashion my friend and that puts you in the same camp with people who think you need a team-kit to cycle 5km. I know one can't be comfortable cycling 45-60 minutes with the north-west wind howling through their wool petty coat or putting on the morning's soaking wet cotton when they finish a long day at the office. I have tried it, have you tried the "special little outfits" that you seem against?
cruiserboy (not verified)
not saying special gear is bad...
Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:48from the article..
"Listen, according to the European Cyclists Federation there are 100 million daily cyclists in Europe. Alone in Copenhagen there are 500,000 cyclists each day. The vast majority wear their regular clothes because they're on their way to work or school. They have closets and they're not afraid to use them. They have happily not been subjected to this branding of cycling as a 'difficult' activity. It's quick, easy, convienent and enjoyable. A bit hot today? Slow down."
that's all i'm saying. i don't give a damn about fashion, i dress like a bum. i'm just saying cycling is easy, special clothes imply that is is not and ghettoize cycling from everyday people. no one is saying not to wear appropriate clothing for the weather. anti-rain jacket?
there are as many kinds of normal as there are people on the planet. Wear what you want. just wanted to let you know how things look from the other side of the spandex fence.
anti-cyclng? persecution complex much? I cycle everyday. I want everyone to ride bikes. i just question the sports-geek/cycling-snob mentality of some.
electric
It truly takes all kinds
Sat, 01/02/2010 - 18:16I agree mostly with what you've said but, what I have a hard time dealing with is the reverse/anti elitism against people who own any sort of cycle specific gear.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. In this regard you should pick whichever way you desire then go out and question the snobbery of others and snicker at their choices. Once people are done playing that game I think the best options for commuter comfort will lie in the middle ground between "US Postal" kit and "homeless man going to the beer store" kit.
Darren_S
Much ado about nothing.
Sat, 01/02/2010 - 13:32Who really gives a rat's ass about what another wears while riding a bike? Wear chaps for all I care. There really has to be more important things to worry about.
locutas_of_spragge
I agree...
Sun, 01/03/2010 - 04:23and I would add that a "spandex fence" exists only in people's minds. We all cycle, we can all get sideswiped, t-boned, hooked, and otherwise hurt or killed by negligent drivers and bad road design. Also, I disagree with the argument that anything turns off drivers: all road users have a responsibility to behave towards each other lawfully, responsibly, and courteously, whatever anyone chooses to wear.
Goober McFly (not verified)
What about chic slobs?
Sat, 01/02/2010 - 14:53Racing gear for commuting looks dorky, especially if you have a spray of dirt on your backside because a 2 oz. fender might weigh your bike down too much.
cruiserboy (not verified)
it is straight-up
Sat, 01/02/2010 - 19:00it is straight-up anti-elitism not reverse anti-elitism but who really cares anyway. this is kind of a silly digression. i really just want bikes to be seen as an easy alternative for anyone and you don't need all that extra stuff just to ride a bike.
electric
Yup, of course that is
Sat, 01/02/2010 - 20:15Yup, of course that is true... one doesn't need that stuff to take a ride to the grocery store and I don't agree with people having it pushed on them.
I suspect the reasons that cycle-specific gear became viewed as something that one is expected to wear if one is to ride a bicycle are founded on the consequences of utilitarian bicycling falling out of popularity with the majority of the population. As a result, the majority of people left as cycling role models are those "hard-core cyclists" and of course they're not about going slowly or wearing bluejeans. Those individual "hard core" cyclists didn't ask for that role to be hoist on them and now they're being held up as straw-men by some "pro-cycling" groups - unfortunate.
Darren_S
How many...
Sat, 01/02/2010 - 19:58...cyclists do you see out there in all of this pink fluorescent spandex dress do you see out there anyway? I see maybe a half dozen a day compared to dozens of cyclists I see that dress somewhere between however to functional.
I buy cycling clothes, nothing obnoxious just functional, that I hang up when I get to work so it is dry when I head home. A pretty good feature in the cold. If I lived really close to work I would be happy riding in with my jeans.
Seymore Bikes
Wear I Some
Sun, 01/03/2010 - 00:55As someone committed to riding every day no matter the weather, I am relegated to the black and yellow garb that essentially Zip-Locks my person as I ride along many a slush strewn road.
cruiserboy (not verified)
I know what you are saying
Sun, 01/03/2010 - 12:09I know what you are saying about it not really being all the "hard-core" cyclists fault that public perception here is that you need all that stuff tho ride a bike. Yet it still something to be resisted and efforts made to change. If, say my mom just wants to ride a bike to get around and she is pressured into believing that she needs not only a bike but a whole new wardrobe to be worthy of riding it is going to act as a deterrent to to her getting out there. I think this is true of many people.
I also have gotten some pretty annoying attitude from some so-called hard-core cyclists that could put off others just wanting a casual bike. especially in most bike shops I have been in.
cruiserboy (not verified)
clothes are also much less of
Sun, 01/03/2010 - 13:07clothes are also much less of an issue on an upright position bike because you are not spending all your time hunched forward so less chafing and whatnot. a big comfy seat helps too. you also stay much cleaner and dryer with proper fenders and a chain guard.
Darren_S
This is not unique to cycling.
Sun, 01/03/2010 - 13:54Buy racing gloves for your car. Get with the latest fashion trend to walk to work. Look good at the club. Wear a Leaf-osers jersey to the game. Bring a Tiger outfit with you for a round of golf.
The whole clothing issue with cycling smells more like a red herring than anything else.
Ryan
I always thought cycling gear
Sun, 01/03/2010 - 18:04I always thought cycling gear was pretty lame and tacky. But the more I rode, the more I appreciated it, because, hey, it makes riding more comfortable and convenient. I'm not a pro by any means - I have a Trek hybrid - but I like to be able to get where I'm going fairly fast. When I was commuting to work last year, I had a 25-30 minute ride at a good speed, in varying weather conditions. I was much happier wearing bike shorts and shoes and packing my work clothes in my pannier so I didn't have to worry about rain, puddles, or sweat.
And half the time, I almost feel out of place wearing my low-end cycling gear, because it's pretty rare for me to see commuters similarly dressed. I really don't think any of the people riding along College feel inferior because they're not "properly dressed."
Everyone's got their own commuting style, and different styles and different attitudes will require different equipment and clothes. If everyone's happy, who cares what anyone is wearing?
chephy (not verified)
Who. Cares. If you feel you
Mon, 01/04/2010 - 10:38Who. Cares.
If you feel you need to be all decked out in cycling gear head-to-toe to ride 2 km through the park - go ahead! If you insist on riding across Canada in jeans and flip-flops - go ahead! Just go ride, instead of bashing other riders for their clothing choice. Jeez!